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Our Response . . .
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questions come to us from many
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Q: How was the President of the Remnant Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints called and approved?
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The President/Prophet of the Church is designated by
revelation from God – generally through his predecessor (DC
43:1-2, DC 80:1b-c). Joseph Smith, Jr., being the first, did
not have a predecessor to appoint him. Frederick M. Smith
informally indicated to the Quorum of Twelve that his
brother Israel should succeed him, but never formalized nor
left an official document. That is why the 1946 General
Conference at the request of the Quorum of Twelve asked
Patriarch Elbert A. Smith to petition the Lord for direction
and confirmation (CH 8:356-360).
The pattern of call and approval is as follows:
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1) A call from God |
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2) Of the
seed/lineage/posterity of Joseph Smith, Jr. |
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3) Approval by the Quorums and
orders of the Church |
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4) Vote/sustained by the voice
of the people in General Conference, having come in by “the
door” |
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5) Legal ordination by those
having authority. |
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Q: Should not a “Smith” be the prophet of the church?
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Priesthood passed from father to son (DC
104:8; 83:2) refers specifically to Melchisedec priesthood.
Aaronic priesthood is also lineal (Exodus 28:1, DC 83:3).
Frederick Larsen received his priesthood lineage through his
father Edward, and the authority vested in those who ordained
him. The blessings of Presidency and leadership are promised
to the “posterity” or “seed” of Joseph Smith, Jr. (DC
107:18b-c), however, this reference does not specifically
indicate direct father-to-son lineage. Frederick Larsen is of
the “seed” or lineage of Joseph Smith, Jr. Moses received his
priesthood and leadership authority from his father-in-law
Jethro, and in turn passed it to Joshua; neither case involved
lineal (biological) descent. The succession of Book of Mormon
record keepers usually involved father to son, brother to
brother, or uncle to nephew descent, but also included
non-lineal transmission, e.g., Mosiah II to Alma, and Ammoron
to Mormon (although it is not clear that the record keepers
were always or necessarily the same as the Church
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The Melchisedec priesthood was restored and
the Church reorganized, by Alma I (Mosiah 11:17, Alma 3:3,
Alma 20:2). We do not know the source of Alma’s authority,
except that God provided leadership in a time of Church
apostasy and disorganization. Jesus had no biological father,
so his genetic “kingly” lineage from Judah and King David was
through his mother Mary. The New Testament accounts of his
lineage through Joseph as strictly indicative of an “adoptive”
sense, and within the pattern of Hebrew custom, recognizing
the father as head of household. Jesus’ priesthood, the
restoration of Melchisedec authority in the Old World, and
right of presidency, was literally brought with him from
heaven, being derived from the Godhead itself. |
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Joseph Smith III discussed the right of
succession in his “Letter of Instruction” (Church History
6:559-575), indicating that the sons of the prophets do have
the right to succession, by lineage, and should be considered
first, if spiritually qualified. But he also allowed
(in Nos. 21, 23, 28) that the right to appoint always
belongs to God, and that contravening revelation may be
had. Although the “Letter of Instruction” is not official
Church law, it is soundly based on scripture (i.e., DC 124:7)
and the experience and wisdom of the Prophet of the
Reorganization. Before he dies, Joseph Smith III told
Frederick M. that the “Letter of Instruction” was one of the
best things he had brought to the Church. |
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Q: Was the call of Fred Larsen as God’s prophet by divine
revelation or other means?
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By his own testimony, Frederick N. Larsen
came to a knowledge of his call through divine inspiration. He
testifies of having seen Jesus Christ in vision. Several other
experiences have directed him, through the voice of the
Spirit, to his present position. One of them took place in the
Kirtland Temple. His testimony and calling are not unlike that
of Joseph Smith III, who also had a series of experiences,
which directed him to the saints who had organized at
Zarahemla and Yellowstone in 1853 and the General Conference
at Amboy in 1860 to which he presented himself. Similarly,
many of the Saints have personal testimony of the validity of
the calling of Brother Larsen. The historical precedents
listed above indicate that designation by a predecessor is not
required in order to be legitimately called. The necessary
conditions for an occupant of the office of President, listed
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A call from God
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Of the seed/lineage/posterity of Joseph
Smith, Jr.
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Approved by the Quorums and orders of the
Church
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Vote/sustained by the voice of the people
in General Conference, having come in by “the door”
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Legal ordination by those having authority
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Q.
What officers do you have in your
church?
The Remnant Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believes in and has the same
officers as originally established in 1830 and in the
Reorganization of 1860.
At
this time (May 5, 2003) the First Presidency is complete, there
are seven Apostles in the Quorum of Twelve,…….
Melchisedec
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A First Presidency
– consisting of a President and two counselors. |
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A Quorum of Twelve
Apostles ( a traveling High Council). |
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A “Standing High
Council” of the Church; and at each “stake” a similar
subordinate “standing high council” – consisting of twelve
chosen for that purpose. |
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Order of
Patriarchs |
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Order of
Bishops |
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A Quorum of High
Priests. |
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One or more Quorums
of Seventy, not exceeding seven. |
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Quorums of Elders. |
From among the High
Priests and Eldership come Presiding Elders at the Stake,
District, and Branch levels with their associated Counselors,
High Councils, and Bishopric.
Aaronic
Bishops, consisting
of a Presiding, and associate or local bishops – said bishops
having temporal jurisdiction subject to the general direction of
the church, and higher church authorities.
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Quorums of Priests. |
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Quorums of
Teachers. |
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Quorums of Deacons. |
Please see C. H.,
Vol. 3, p. for the first Articles of Incorporation, 1872, which
defined this leadership outline. The Remnant Church incorporated
under these exact same terms, with the exception of names,
places, and dates which did not apply in 2002.
At the present time
there is one counselor in the First Presidency, six Apostles in
the Quorum of Twelve, the Standing High Council is in place, and
there are members in the Order of Patriarchs, the quorums of
elders, priests, teachers, and deacons. The Church awaits
further revelation from God for filling the existing quorums and
designating the Presiding Bishop, and in due course a Presiding
Patriarch.
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Q: Does the Remnant Church allow other members of the
Restoration churches to partake of the sacrament or does one
have to be baptized into the Remnant Church to partake?
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The criteria for participation in the sacrament of the Lord’s
Supper within the body of Christ known as the Remnant Church
is identical with the requirements sited in the three standard
books and accepted as scripture since the gospel was restored
to earth in 1830. Anyone who desires to partake of the emblems
must first have received a valid baptism by immersion and
through the laying on of hands by those who are authorized by
God to perform it within the parameters of the law established
by Christ. Membership in the Remnant Church is not a
prerequisite. However, the individual must be eligible to
partake by meeting the requirements set by the Lord for
communion with Him. This is not negotiable, because it was not
determined by the church authorities, but by Christ, who set
the standard for all those who would follow after him. |
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Q: Can Restoration Priesthood participate in the ministry
provided by the Remnant Church such as pulpit ministry, retreats
for priesthood, etc.?
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“Restoration Priesthood” is a widely used term that does not
presently have a commonly understood or generally accepted
meaning among restoration saints today. For example, all those
who consider themselves to be “restorationists,” do not
believe the same things are true. In the Remnant Church of
Jesus Christ, the source, which is consulted to determine
whether someone has received legitimate priesthood authority,
is the same as is used to determine whether someone is
eligible to receive the sacrament of the Lord’s Supper. The
scriptures are our source, as well as seeking the witness of
the Holy Spirit in confirmation of what is true. Guest
ministry has been received in Remnant branches in the past,
from priesthood who were not part of this organization. This
is determined on an individual basis and with the needs of the
congregation and the approval of the presiding officers taken
under consideration. With respect to who may participate at
priesthood retreats; all authorized priesthood are welcome and
encouraged to attend that all may be edified. |
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Q. Does the
Remnant LDS have the same temple ordinances as the LDS of Utah?
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No. |
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Q.
Are
any human works required for salvation?
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Salvation is in and through Jesus Christ
and no other. Works, or the life of a disciple, requires total
submission to His will. See Mark 8: 36-41 and James 2: 15-25,
3: 13. |
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Q.
Why does this church exist?
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For one purpose only, to fulfill His divine
will. See Ephesians 4: 11-16.
Also as the true succession to the restoration of the gospel
April 6, 1830 through divine call to Joseph Smith Jr. and
others. |
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Q.
What is the nature of God?
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In a few
words, His full nature is portrayed and exemplified in Jesus
Christ, the Holy One of Israel. See Isaiah 9: 6-7. |
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Q.
Do you have any
modern “prophets”?
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The Remnant
Church of Jesus Christ is presided over by Frederick N.
Larsen, great-great-grandson of Joseph Smith Jr., as President
of the High Priesthood and by virtue of that calling and
ordination is Prophet, Seer, and Revelator. The gift of
prophecy may be, and is, granted to many. But only the
President of the High Priesthood has the authority and calling
to bring prophetic direction to the whole Church. |
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Q. How
are you different from the LDS of Utah?
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Vastly
different. We do not now, nor have we believed the Lord ever
directed many spurious doctrines such as progression,
multiplicity of gods, Adam as a god, polygamy, and many
unscriptural temples ordinances foreign to the Bible, Book of
Mormon, and Latter Day Revelation given through Joseph Smith
Jr. and his true successors in office. |
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Q.
How are you different from the RLDS (Community of Christ)?
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It is our
belief that the Community of Christ has turned aside from some
of the most basic beliefs of the Restored Gospel as taught and
practiced by the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
Day Saints until recent decades. The Remnant Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter Day Saints holds fast to all of the original
teachings including belief in the literal establishment of the
kingdom of God on earth namely Zion, the New Jerusalem, the
principle of gathering to that place, the literal return of
Jesus Christ in power and glory to reign over His Church and
Kingdom on the earth, etc., etc., etc. |
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